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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: Unions Are Good for Business |
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Unions Are Good for Business, Productivity and the Economy
According to Professor Harley Shaiken of the University of California-Berkeley,[1] unions are associated with higher productivity, lower employee turnover, improved workplace communication, and a better-trained workforce.
Prof. Shaiken is not alone. There is a substantial amount of academic literature on the following benefits of unions and unionization to employers and the economy:
Productivity
Competitiveness
Product or service delivery and quality
Training
Turnover
Solvency of the firm
Workplace health and safety
Economic development
Productivity
According to a recent survey of 73 independent studies on unions and productivity: “The available evidence points to a positive and statistically significant association between unions and productivity in the U.S. manufacturing and education sectors, of around 10 and 7 percent, respectively.”[2]
Some scholars have found an even larger positive relationship between unions and productivity. According to Brown and Medoff, “unionized establishments are about 22 percent more productive than those that are not.”[3]
Product/ Service Delivery and Quality
According to Professors Michael Ash and Jean Ann Seago,[4] heart attack recovery rates are higher in hospitals where nurses are unionized than in non-union hospitals.
Another study looked at the relationship between unionization and product quality in the auto industry.[5] According to a summary of this study prepared by American Rights at Work:
“The author examines the system of co-management created through the General Motors-United Auto Workers partnership at the Saturn Corporation…The author credits the union with building a dense communications network throughout Saturn's management system. Compared to non-represented advisors, union advisors showed greater levels of lateral communication and coordination, which had a significant positive impact on quality performance.”
Training
Several studies in have found a positive association between unionization and the amount and quality of workforce training. Unionized establishments are more likely to offer formal training.[6] This is especially true for small firms. There are a number of reasons for this: less turnover among union workers, making the employer more likely to offer training; collective bargaining agreements that require employers to provide training; and finally, unions often conduct their own training.
Turnover
Professor Shaiken also finds that unions reduce turnover. He cites Freeman and Medoff’s finding that “about one fifth of the union productivity effect stemmed from lower worker turnover. Unions improve communication channels giving workers the ability to improve their conditions short of ‘exiting.’”[7]
Solvency
Labor’s enemies assert that unions drive employers out of business, but academic research refutes this claim. According to Professors Richard Freeman and Morris Kleiner, unionism has a statistically insignificant effect (meaning no effect) on firm solvency.[8] Freeman and Kleiner conclude “unions do not, on average, drive firms or business lines out of business or produce high displacement rates for unionized workers.”
Workplace Health and Safety
Employers should be concerned about workplace health and safety as a matter of enlightened self-interest. According to an American Rights at Work summary of a study by John E. Baugher and J. Timmons Roberts:
“Only one factor effectively moves workers who are in subordinate positions to actively cope with hazards: membership in an independent labor union. These findings suggest that union growth could indirectly reduce job stress by giving workers the voice to cope effectively with job hazards.”[9]
Economic Development
Unions also play a positive role in economic development. One good example is the Wisconsin Regional Training Partnership, “an association of 125 employers and unions dedicated to family-supporting jobs in a competitive business environment. WRTP members have stabilized manufacturing employment in the Milwaukee metro area, and contributed about 6,000 additional industrial jobs to it over the past five years. Among member firms, productivity is way up--exceeding productivity growth in nonmember firms.”[10]
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[1] Harley Shaiken, The High Road to a Competitive Economy: A Labor Law Strategy, Center for American Progress, June 25, 2004, pp. 7-8. http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/unionpaper.pdf
[2] Christos Doucouliagos and Patrice Laroche, “The Impact of U.S. Unions on Producivity: A Bootstrap Meta-analysis,” Proceedings of the Industrial Relations Research Association, 2004. See also, by the same authors, “What Do Unions Do to Productivity: A Meta-analysis,” Industrial Relations, Volume 42 Issue 4 October 2003:
[3] Charles Brown and James L. Medoff, “Trade Unions in the Production Process.” Journal of Political
Economy, vol. 86, no. 3 (June 1978): 355–378.
[4] Michael Ash and Jean Ann Seago, “The effect of registered nurses' unions on heart-attack mortality,” Industrial and Labor Relations Review, Vol. 57, No. 3 (Apr. 2004), pp. 422-442.
[5] Saul A. Rubinstein, “The Impact of Co-Management on Quality Performance: The Case of the Saturn Corporation.” Industrial and Labor Relations Review, Vol. 53, No. 197 (January 2000).
[6] Harley J. Frazis, Diane E. Herz and Michael W. Horrigan, “Employer-Provided Training: Results from a New Survey.” Monthly Labor Review (May 1995): 3–17.
[7] Harley Shaiken, cited earlier, quoting Richard Freeman and James Medoff, What Do Unions Do? New York, Basic Books, 1984.
[8] Richard B. Freeman and Morris M. Kleiner, “Do Unions Make Enterprises Insolvent?” Industrial and Labor Relations Review, vol. 52, no. 4 (July 1999): 510–527.
[9] John E. Baugher and J. Timmons Roberts, “Workplace Hazards, Unions and Coping Styles.” Labor
Studies Journal, Vol. 29, No. 2 (Summer 2004).
[10] Annette Bernhardt, Laura Dresser, and Joel Rogers, “Taking the High Road in Milwaukee: The Wisconsin Regional Training Partnership.” Working USA, Vol. 5, Issue 3 (January 31, 2002). |
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Tina Small Union Supporter

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This was a very informative article: Thank you for posting it. Do you think unions will ever be a strong as they once were?
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bill Gutschow Union Believer
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Tina Small wrote: | This was a very informative article: Thank you for posting it. Do you think unions will ever be a strong as they once were?
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When the workers in this country wake up and realize just exactly what big business and big government are doing to them, they will turn back to the union movement in massive numbers. The only other possible outcome is that this country becomes just another third world hellhole that the super rich exploit for their own gain. I do not believe that we will ever allow that to happen- but I never thought Americans would sit by and allow dishonest leaders to take us into a senseless war either. Time will tell! |
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Tina Small Union Supporter

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| Bill Gutschow wrote: |
When the workers in this country wake up and realize just exactly what big business and big government are doing to them, they will turn back to the union movement in massive numbers. The only other possible outcome is that this country becomes just another third world hellhole that the super rich exploit for their own gain. I do not believe that we will ever allow that to happen- but I never thought Americans would sit by and allow dishonest leaders to take us into a senseless war either. Time will tell! |
Well..... you are so sweet to answer my question .
I am a nurse in a private Health Facility. How do we become unionized? Can we be fired if we talk about getting a union?
Thanks for your help! |
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Bill Gutschow Union Believer
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Tina Small wrote: |
Well..... you are so sweet to answer my question .
I am a nurse in a private Health Facility. How do we become unionized? Can we be fired if we talk about getting a union?
Thanks for your help! |
I would love to help you and your co-workers unionize! What state are you in? I am in New York and if any employee were to be fired for union involvement our union would represent that worker in court to fight to get their job back(with back pay and benefits). The right to organize is often challenged by management when they are afraid to give workers a voice. My advise is to not talk openly about organizing until you know where the majority of your co-workers stand on the issue. How big of a facility are we talking about? Will we be organizing all titles in the facility or are you interested in just the nursing titles? I hope to hear from you soon... don't be intimidated by the task ahead of you- there are thousands of us out here who will stand by you once you take the initial leap! |
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Tina Small Union Supporter

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| Bill Gutschow wrote: |
I would love to help you and your co-workers unionize! What state are you in? I am in New York and if any employee were to be fired for union involvement our union would represent that worker in court to fight to get their job back(with back pay and benefits). The right to organize is often challenged by management when they are afraid to give workers a voice. My advise is to not talk openly about organizing until you know where the majority of your co-workers stand on the issue. How big of a facility are we talking about? Will we be organizing all titles in the facility or are you interested in just the nursing titles? I hope to hear from you soon... don't be intimidated by the task ahead of you- there are thousands of us out here who will stand by you once you take the initial leap! |
You sure have a fire in your belly about unions. I am sick of being pushed around with no voice in the workplace at all. If I had a man like you by my side, I certainly would get a union. I am a bit afraid if I spoke up I could loose my job.
I work in a private nursing home downstate: What unions specialize in nursing home staff?
Again, thanks for responding.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Ruth Union Supporter
Joined: 20 May 2007
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| Tina Small wrote: |
You sure have a fire in your belly about unions. I am sick of being pushed around with no voice in the workplace at all. If I had a man like you by my side, I certainly would get a union. I am a bit afraid if I spoke up I could loose my job.
I work in a private nursing home downstate: What unions specialize in nursing home staff?
Again, thanks for responding.
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I also work in a Nursing Home. My employer treats us pretty good so I don’t think we need a union. My last employer was cruel and unjust… we could have used a union then.
I think if your employer pays you ok and provide good benefits, you don’t need a union. |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Bill Gutschow Union Believer
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Tina Small wrote: |
You sure have a fire in your belly about unions. I am sick of being pushed around with no voice in the workplace at all. If I had a man like you by my side, I certainly would get a union. I am a bit afraid if I spoke up I could loose my job.
I work in a private nursing home downstate: What unions specialize in nursing home staff?
Again, thanks for responding.
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I do have a "fire in my belly for unions", because like you, I too worked for several employers that were non-union and treated their workers as if they were expendable. Look, CSEA is the union that I work for and would do a great job for you and your co-workers. We would also protect you personnally if the employer tried to mess with you in any way. That's not to say that they won't, but I have personnally fought those type of battles and as yet, have never lost. We are lucky to be in a state that supports workers and their right to organize-take the first step and talk to a union organizer away from the worksite on your own time. Or, I will help you through the whole process if you would prefer through this forum. I can tell you that once you get "The Cause" in you, you will see how worthwhile it becomes. We represent many public and private nursing homes, and will do whatever it takes to represent you, if you so desire. |
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Tina Small Union Supporter

Joined: 28 Apr 2007
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| Bill Gutschow wrote: |
I do have a "fire in my belly for unions", because like you, I too worked for several employers that were non-union and treated their workers as if they were expendable. Look, CSEA is the union that I work for and would do a great job for you and your co-workers. We would also protect you personnally if the employer tried to mess with you in any way. That's not to say that they won't, but I have personnally fought those type of battles and as yet, have never lost. We are lucky to be in a state that supports workers and their right to organize-take the first step and talk to a union organizer away from the worksite on your own time. Or, I will help you through the whole process if you would prefer through this forum. I can tell you that once you get "The Cause" in you, you will see how worthwhile it becomes. We represent many public and private nursing homes, and will do whatever it takes to represent you, if you so desire. |
You do have the fire… I would love to meet you and discuss this whole issue further! I guess that is not possible because you are so far away. Exactly how do you form a union? What if management will not recognize your union? How can a union improve working conditions?
You are so sweet to take the time to answer my silly questions. |
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Tina Small Union Supporter

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| Ruth wrote: |
I also work in a Nursing Home. My employer treats us pretty good so I don’t think we need a union. My last employer was cruel and unjust… we could have used a union then.
I think if your employer pays you ok and provide good benefits, you don’t need a union. |
Hi Ruth,
I know those things can change very fast. My employer provided 100% paid health insurance when I started. Now we have to pay 25% and we had no say in the whole process...
Things change fast.... Take care! |
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Bill Gutschow Union Believer
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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Ruth, the time to unionize is when you have an administration that respects it's workers. A progressive management team will recognize the advantages of dealing with a union and may throw far fewer roadblocks up on the path to union recognition than an administration that knows they have shafted the workforce and feels the need to keep workers "under their thumb." I would be willing to help you if you want- what state are you in and what is the size of the workforce? All titles being organized or just Nursing? let me know... |
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Tina Small Union Supporter

Joined: 28 Apr 2007
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What is the first step to get a union? |
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Ruth Union Supporter
Joined: 20 May 2007
Posts: 3 Location: Albany
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| Bill Gutschow wrote: | | Ruth, the time to unionize is when you have an administration that respects it's workers. A progressive management team will recognize the advantages of dealing with a union and may throw far fewer roadblocks up on the path to union recognition than an administration that knows they have shafted the workforce and feels the need to keep workers "under their thumb." I would be willing to help you if you want- what state are you in and what is the size of the workforce? All titles being organized or just Nursing? let me know... |
Thanks... but no thanks. My job is to important to me. I would rather work and be treated like dirt then to have no job at all! |
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Bill Gutschow Union Believer
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Tina Small wrote: | | What is the first step to get a union? |
Tina, I really think you and I should converse- I will send you my cell number on a private pm. Call me at your convenience. I would be willing to meet you if we could co-ordinate it with one of the many trips I have to make to Albany over the next couple of months. |
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Bill Gutschow Union Believer
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| Ruth wrote: |
Thanks... but no thanks. My job is to important to me. I would rather work and be treated like dirt then to have no job at all! |
I am sorry to hear that Ruth. If you ever change your mind you can always contact me via this forum. Good luck to you and your co-workers. |
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